Jon Hershfield

In episode 294 I interviewed Jon Hershfield. Jon is a psychotherapist and the director of The Center for OCD and Anxiety, at Sheppard Pratt. He is the author of six OCD books, including his most recent book the 2nd edition of “The mindfulness workbook for OCD”.

I chat with Jon about what’s new with him, what is false memory OCD, real event OCD, the problem with compulsively reviewing memories or thoughts, how this theme of OCD links into moral scrupulosity, some of the compulsions linked to this theme, dealing with the uncertainty, rumination, when you’re worried to go to therapy, mindfulness around this theme, why the difference between a false memory or a real one doesn’t matter and why we shouldn’t try to figure it out, why drinking alcohol can make OCD worse, and much more. Hope it helps. 

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Find out more about Jon:


His books:

Jon’s false memory OCD article: 


Real event OCD episode

Moral scrupulosity and covid episode with Jon Hershfield

Dr Reid Wilson

Dr Jon Grayson / book: Freedom from Obsessive-Compulsive Disorder

All the best,


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