Nate Gruner

In episode 283 I interviewed Nate Gruner. Nate is a staff Behavioral Therapist at McLean OCD institute. 

We talk about his therapy story, what is functional analytic psychotherapy (FAP), the interpersonal aspects of therapy, the importance of the therapeutic relationship, how FAP can be useful for OCD, he gives client in-session examples, using FAP, ACT and ERP together, doing exposures to build intimacy, we discuss clinically relevant behaviours (CRBs), and much much more. 

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Find out more about Nate:



McLean OCDI 

Dr Chad Wetterneck IOCDF 2017 FAP talk 

Dr Steven Hayes

Reid et al. 2021 study

Dr Kieron O’Connor – Inference based therapy 

All the best,


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