In episode 64 of the podcast I interviewed Donald Robertson. Donald is a cognitive-behavioural psychotherapist, trainer, and author who specialises in the treatment of anxiety and the use of CBT and clinical hypnotherapy. He is the author of many books including “Stoicism and the art of happiness”, “Build your resilience” and “The philosophy of CBT”.

Donald Robertson

I had a good chat with Donald about Stoicism and OCD. We talk about what Stoicism actually is, the birth of CBT, advice for exposures, how broadening your scope of attention can help dilute anxiety, defusing from thoughts, meta-cognitive therapy, effective meditation, how to become more resilient. Enjoy!

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Show notes:

Donald’s story (6:10)

What is Stoicism? (10:30)

Advice for exposures (ERP) (18:50)

Learning to live with uncertainty (27:10)

Camp fire story exercise (34:30)

Tips for meditation (42:00)

Tips for becoming more resilient (49:00)

The elevator question (1:03:10)

Donald’s advice for living an amazing life (1:04:00)

The billboard question (1:06:00)

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Comments (2)
  1. Loved this episode. Useful advice on the pursuit of happiness. I can see how Stoic philosophy and practice can be a useful tool to handling challenges like anxiety. Could you paste the blog link here to the article he mentioned on how an anonymous person used Stoicism to help with OCD?

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