In episode 106 I interviewed Dr Steven Phillipson for the second time. Steven is a licensed clinical psychologist who specializes in Cognitive-Behavioral Therapy for OCD. He co-founded the first Support group for OCD sufferers in the New York area in 1987. Steven is the Clinical Director at the Center for Cognitive Behavioral Psychotherapy.

Dr Steven Phillipson

In this episode with Steven we discuss how ERP works, developing a champion mindset in recovery, the power of choice, living by your values, Viktor Frankl, the phrase “If I’m not choosing it, let it be!”, and staying centred in emotional turmoil. Enjoy! 

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Find out more about Steven:

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Steven’s article on choice

Podcast: Dr Steven Phillipson – Recovery From Thinking The Unthinkable



To your success,
Stuart and The OCD Stories team

Comments (4)
  1. At 12 mins and 30 secs into the podcast Dr. Phillipson mentions the goal of ERP is to show the brain the intrusive thoughts are irrelevant. From his comments, it sounds like we shouldn’t be caught up in experiencing anxiety during the exposure. High anxiety or low anxiety, the main goal is to make the brain bored of the intrusive thoughts, memories, and images. Can ERP be effective without high levels of anxiety?

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