In episode 333 I chat with Jonny Say. Jonny is a UK based therapist. 

We discuss how he’s doing, Jonny’s mental health and how he practices self-compassion daily, we discuss shame around intrusive thoughts and in doing compulsions, the inner critic, self-compassion and how it can help, building up psychological flexibility skills before exposure and response prevention therapy (ERP), values based exposure, dropping anchor, a compassionate approach to ERP, and much more. Hope it helps.  

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Find out more about Jonny:

Jonny’s previous episodes: one, two, three.





Russ Harris 

Patricia Zurita Ona / Jonny and Patricia Instagram Lives 

Kimberley Quinlan – “The Self-Compassion Workbook for OCD” 

Jon Hershfield and Shala Nicely – “Everyday mindfulness for OCD” 

All the best,


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