In episode 13 of The OCD Stories podcast I interviewed Dr Fred Penzel. Fred is a psychologist and founding member of the International OCD Foundation. He has authored a book on OCD and one on Trichotillomania.

Dr Fred Penzel

Fred has a wealth of knowledge on OCD. He has invested so much into the treatment of others, it was an honour to interview him. We talk about how to treat OCD, homosexual OCD, what to do if you struggle with the obsession “what if I don’t even have OCD” and body dysmorphic disorder. Enjoy!!!

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Show notes:

Fred’s OCD Story (1:40)

What motivates Fred (3:50)

Fred’s OCD treatment approach (7:20)

Acceptance and OCD (8:45)

Procrastination and OCD (11:50)

OCD and subtypes (14:15)

The OCD beating mindset (16:40)

What Fred would cover in the first therapy session (21:10)

How to deal with homosexual OCD (23:00)

How to deal and overcome Body Dysmorphic Disorder (BDD) (26:00)

“Do I even have OCD” obsession (31:30)

OCD and medication (33:00)

How to stop an OCD relapse (37:00)

Fred’s one piece of advice for someone with OCD (40:00)

What Fred would have written on his billboard (41:40)

Find out more about Dr Fred Penzel:

Fred’s full bio

Fred’s articles

Fred’s website –

Fred on Twitter – @DrFredPenzel

Fred’s books: Obsessive-Compulsive Disorders ( & The Hair-Pulling Problem: A Complete Guide to Trichotillomania (

Resources mentioned:

International OCD Foundation – IOCDF

To your success,

Stuart and The OCD Stories team

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