Jonny Say

In episode 439 I chat with Jonny Say. Jonny is a UK based therapist and co-director at The Integrative Centre for OCD Therapy. 

We talk about what are values based exposures, Jonny guides me through an imaginal exposure with acceptance and commitment therapy (ACT), he goes through the skill dropping anchor, and much more. Hope it helps. 

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Jonny’s previous episodes: onetwothreefourfivesixseven, eight

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Dr Jon Abramowitz on Breaking the rules podcast:

Jon Hershfield and Shala Nicely ‘Everyday mindfulness for OCD’ book:


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